My money pit project.

[Blackjack]

Ok I'm going to try to post some pic's, the first one is the very first pic I got during disassembly. To give you an idea it had a set of 17" Cobra R knock off's.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/CIMG0020.jpg

Below is the engine before I pulled it. It was a stock bottom end 302 with cam, springs, rockers, long tube headers, Edelbrock Rpm manifold, and a Pro-M 77mm mass air kit. With this I was able to go 13.62 @103mph, at Memphis.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/CIMG0022.jpg

This was after I pulled the rear and trans. Super dirty!

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/CIMG0042.jpg

This was after I pulled it. It's alot cleaner and more bare now.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/CIMG0017.jpg


This was after the engine, trans, and rear was pulled. Did a mild clean up, and had the new rear setting under it.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/CIMG0457.jpg

I had started collecting parts, here's the new brakes.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/CIMG0064.jpg

This is the rear pic with the new control arms and brakes. I also have a torque arm I'm going to install, but I'm waiting on money for the pan hard bar.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/IMG00541.jpg

This is the front pic with the new brakes and bump stop kit. I'm planning to put a coil over set, but I already had the Eibach Pro Kit, so I'm cheaping out.


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/IMG00543.jpg

[ArkansasMystic]

Looks to be a great project!!!

[Blackjack]

This is the front with the new brakes and wheels.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Frontwheel.jpg


This is the rear with the new brakes and wheels.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Backwheel.jpg

This is the side view once I got it on the ground. I've got the front end off and getting ready to remove the front fenders to do clean up and paint on the engine bay.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Frontofthecar.jpg

This is the rear since I got it setting on the ground.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Backofthecar-1.jpg

This is the last pic I've taking so far, it's basically the car loaded up. I'm moving it to a buddies shop. That's where my engine and some of my other stuff is.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/MovingCar1.jpg

[oxman]

Heck yeah sir!! Looks awesome,,can't wait to see and hear the finished product! :D

[Blackjack]

Thanks ya'll. This stupid project is based on, "As money comes in.". Lmao!
This all started when I destroyed the clutch. At the time I was having a new rear end built. So, while I was replacing the clutch I decided to change it over to five lug. Then, I thought to myself and said, "****, while I'm here I might as well pull the motor and kinda restore this ole girl". Which, lead to the thought's of awesome brakes, a kick *** motor, and a great looking car.

To give you an idea............the car still has 2006 tags.......... :lol: :lol:

So, I'm praying enough fundige comes in to maybe get this thing going this year.

[Blackout_03]

Good start on what will be a freaking sweet street car.....whats the plans for the power plant?.....427 SBF?....high strung 306 with 4.56 gears?

[Blackjack]

Well, the plan started out as a N/A 408 windsor. Then, my brother just got his car finished and it's a single turbo 8.200 deck small block. WOW is all I can say. So for the time being, I'm building a 333ci stock block 302. I've got a set of RHS 200 aluminum heads, it'l be about 9.1 to 9.5 compression, a solid roller cam, Systemax upper and lower manifold, and a F.A.S.T. system. I'm going to run it N/A, tell I can afford the turbo parts to put the system together, then change the cam and a few other thing and go for a single turbo small block.

[backfocus]

Looking good Blackjack. I like the F500s. Is that the full Baer kit? It is nice to have the space you have to work on it. I know, since mine is in the similar process, but I still have it all apart. Probably 40% of my car is stored in my attic right now, boxed and labeled.

Looking at your post reminds me I need to update my project picts. Keep up the good work!

[backfocus]

With a 331 and a turbo later, you will be on borrow time with that stock block. Look into saving up for the nw SHP Dart and Iron Eagle block for later down the road. Not saying it can't be done, just to far past the red line district on the block, for me.

[Blackjack]

Thanks Backfocus, yes it's a complete Baer kit. Yeah I did have a ton of room to work on it, however, I just moved it to a buddies shop. It's a little more cramped, but he's got a lot more tools. I moved it from my parents, because we own and operate a honey farm. So, it's getting close for us to pull honey then will need the room to barrel and store it. So, my Dad's been riding my *** to get it out. :lol: Plus, they live down a 2 to 2 1/2 mile gravel road, which got old real quick. I was glad to move it.

[stumbaugh]

Build a Windsor. A stock Windsor block will handle over 800 hp. Just do a 408 with 9:1 compression, and a 76mm. It would be an awsome street car along with the fast setup

[Blackjack]

Yeah, that's the plan. I'm just trying to put the thing together now to get out and play some. I freaking miss the car something aweful! I'm just using the stock block tell I get the money for the new block.

[1low03gt]

That is going to be one sick machine!! :twisted:

[Bigjht]

Nice...I like the FR500s.

[stumbaugh]

It will be a sweet ride when u get done. I'm in the process of doing the same to mine. I'm pretty much building a race car out of my 99 gt. Putting a carbureted Windsor in it with a VERY big turbo on it

[Blackjack]

It will be a sweet ride when u get done. I'm in the process of doing the same to mine. I'm pretty much building a race car out of my 99 gt. Putting a carbureted Windsor in it with a VERY big turbo on it


That should be freaking sweet!!!!

[matstang]

LOOKING GOOD Blackjack! Can't wait to see it at work!

[Blackjack]

Thanks Matt! I can't wait to finish it!

[my4stangs]

That is going to be one good lookin fox. The funny thing about a Mustang project is that it is never completely done. I have a 90 GT that I bought in 92 and I am still tinkering with it.

[Blackjack]

Ok, so it's not quit a step ahead, but I thought I'd share anyhow. I'm fixing to get ready to fill holes and smooth up the engine bay.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/1.jpg




Here's one step up. I had to replace the heater core so I had the dash out. Look at the carpet! Is that not awesome or what!!! Lol!

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Dash.jpg

[Blackjack]

Ok, so not much done yet, but here's my junk on my buddies rack. I was getting the stock crappy fuel line's off.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/3.jpg

This is the fly wheel, was getting it cleaned up. Taking the rotating assembly to get it balanced tomorrow.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/4.jpg

And a few pics to make it official. The stupid thing may not run, but I'm in now! Hahaha!

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/5.jpg

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/6.jpg

[matstang]

Thanks Matt! I can't wait to finish it!

Yep you might be done before mine and I have a motor in my car lol

[Blackjack]

Man, I wish! I've still got some mocking up to do.

[matstang]

Man, I wish! I've still got some mocking up to do.

Yep but it will be well worth it!

[Blackjack]

Well guys I got my rotating assembly today! Bearings are on there way! So hopefully I'll be able to get the motor together pretty soon! I'll post up some pics as soon as I can.

[1low03gt]

Progress,nice!!Can't wait to see the engine bay all smoothed up,it's gonna look sick!

I see a sweet Gen 1 Lightning,and a mid/late '70 F series pick up!! :twisted: Are those all your Ford products?

[stumbaugh]

Looks good. Ur getting alot of progress done!

[hammerhead2]

Progress,nice!!Can't wait to see the engine bay all smoothed up,it's gonna look sick!

I see a sweet Gen 1 Lightning,and a mid/late '70 F series pick up!! :twisted: Are those all your Ford products?


You missed the Mercury Marauder in the back ground LOL. Those belong to a buddy of ours. He also has a Fairmont a Bronco and a Foxbody Notchback.

[Blackjack]

Progress,nice!!Can't wait to see the engine bay all smoothed up,it's gonna look sick!

I see a sweet Gen 1 Lightning,and a mid/late '70 F series pick up!! :twisted: Are those all your Ford products?


Hahaha! No those are all my buddy Kevins, whom I've been trying to get on the site as well. Yeah, that 70's truck is called "Uncle Jesse", it has a carbed late model H.O. roller 302 motor. LOL!

[oxman]

Looking good man! Decals look alright to you?

[Blackjack]

Looking good man! Decals look alright to you?


Yeah, I thought they kinda fit the bill. On the engine, and rest of the car, I was going for the whole black red combo. Lol! So, I think they do ok. :D

[Blackjack]

So thought I add an update. Wasn't going to post this up, kinda keeping it some what secret to most, but what the hay.


This is the newest addition. I pick up the second one this weekend.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Turbo1.jpg

So I got the valves lapped in lastnight, cleaned, and started to check installed heighth, and realized I left my spring compressor at the house! :x

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Buildingheads.jpg


So, I started to disassemble the betty to clean it up and re-clock it for my junk.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Compressor.jpg

Still trying to get the inducer off. Rust is some strong junk. :lol:

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Inducer.jpg

[Str33tr]

You missed the Mercury Marauder in the back ground LOL
MMM... Marauder...

I LOVE THOSE!!!

[stumbaugh]

What size r those? They look to be around a 60mm

[Blackjack]

They're T03's off of like a T-bird. They've got a .60AR compressor housing. I didn't see anything, but there suppose to be a .63AR inducer. I'm getting the other this weekend, and I'm working on getting them apart and getting v-band's set up for the down pipes instead of the 90 degree ball socket. After my brother got his rolling and I rode in it.......... :o I had to have it! :lol:

[hammerhead2]

Sam that thing is going to be awsome with those little twins on there. Can't wait for you to finish it.

[stumbaugh]

The car should run real good. It's going to spool at like 1800rpm with those twins.

[Blackjack]

Yeah, I'm just looking for a good fun driver. With some good power! 8-)

[stumbaugh]

It should be a fun street car.

[Blackjack]

Ok, got some more done this weekend.

First mic-ed the crank.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Crank.jpg


Then dial bored the mains, and after moving around a few bearings here and there got what we were looking for.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Mains.jpg

Then to filing the rings. Back view and a front view.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/RingsGapped.jpg

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Frontoftheblock.jpg

Then we ran into a problem with the rod bearings checking to loose, so had to stop on the block, order some different bearing, so I finished the heads.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Bothheads.jpg

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/CompleteHead.jpg

By the way, I ran into another problem with the turbos. Turns out one of them had a .63 ar exhaust housing (Which is what I need), and the other is a .48 ar. To small, so I located two more from a buddy. Which of those one is a .63 ar, and the other is a .48 ar. So some swapping around and I'll have what I need.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/AnotherTurbo.jpg

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Threeturbos.jpg

[stumbaugh]

I see someone working on a motor in shorts and flip flops. Is that OSHA approved? Haha that reminds me of myself working on my race car. What kind of heads r u running?

[Blackjack]

Yeah, that was my brother. The shop get a bit warm this time a year so.........shorts are pretty much a must. Lol!

There some of the first RHS 200cc runner heads.

[oxman]

looks like it's coming right along,,well done sir!

[Blackjack]

Thanks, I'm almost living on ramen noodles, just to spend as much money as I can to get this thing going!!! Lol!

[ArkansasMystic]

Thanks, I'm almost living on ramen noodles, just to spend as much money as I can to get this thing going!!! Lol!

Haha, nothing wrong with that! Car's coming along nicely.

[Blackjack]

Well, haven't had a chance to get out to the shop this week. So nothing really major, but we are going out there tonight to finish assembling the short block. However, thought I'd put up some pics of some new parts I got yesterday for Ole Black Betty.


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Rockers1.jpg


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Rockers2.jpg

I think this car is going to put me in the poor house!!! :lol:

[1low03gt]

Progress,nice!!Can't wait to see the engine bay all smoothed up,it's gonna look sick!

I see a sweet Gen 1 Lightning,and a mid/late '70 F series pick up!! :twisted: Are those all your Ford products?


Hahaha! No those are all my buddy Kevins, whom I've been trying to get on the site as well. Yeah, that 70's truck is called "Uncle Jesse", it has a carbed late model H.O. roller 302 motor. LOL!
That is cool.My 1st hot rod was a '79 F-100 Custom Explorer.My folks bought it brand new in the summer of '79,then when i turned 16/17,they gave it to me.Was a little rough on the edges from construction,but it was worth it LOL!!She is now gone.... :(
Now back to your spotlight,you sure got the parts rolling in!!How much longer you think before the engine is up and running?

[Blackjack]

Well, I'm not a 100% sure. I'm shooting for hopefully towards the end of the year, maybe the beginning of next. I've still got a good bit to get. My brother and I got all the clearances lined out tonight, the crank in, and one of the pistons in. However, the ring compressor we we're using is a pile of crap. So, I'm gonna get a tappered one later. I got some pics, and I'll post them up later.

[stumbaugh]

The build is going good. How did u like buying those rockers. They are a little bit on the expensive side huh

[Blackjack]

Well, I honestly didn't need to purchase them, and prolly didn't really have to money..........., but my heart said ooohhh yes you do!!!!! Lol!

[stumbaugh]

LOL I gotcha. But they r well worth the money.

[Blackjack]

Bingo! Yeah, it's pretty sad when your trying to buy parts, and your looking at you bills on trying to decide.......hmmmmmmm can this one wait? Hahahahahaha! Just kidding!

[stumbaugh]

Haha, ye sitting there thinking " do we really need water next month???". I'm just ready to see this car going.

[Blackjack]

Well, here some pics from Friday.

This is the rods that the clearance has been checked and started to install the pistons.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Rodswaitingforpistons.jpg

One of the rods waiting for bearing and to be checked.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Rodswaitingforbearings.jpg

My brother installing the fun spiral locks

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Mybrotherassemblingpistons.jpg

Checking the clearance on the last few rods.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/CheckingRodclearances.jpg

Block ready and waiting to be assembled. I thought this was kind of a cool pic with the car behind it.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Blockreadyforassembly.jpg

Crank in and in for good!

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Crankintostay.jpg

One piston in, and we were using a sorry ring compressor. So we stopped because we didn't want to take a chance in damaging the rings.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Onepistonin.jpg

This is the Ladies in waiting! Lol!

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Ladiesinwaiting.jpg

[Blackjack]

Well, the short block is together!!!!! :mrgreen:


http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Assembledshortblock.jpg

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Bottomoftheshortblock.jpg

[87TurboGT]

Sam?! From bay? This is weird...

[oxman]

Nice updated pics,,looking good!

[Blackjack]

Thanks John, I ordered and am waiting on the wastgate flanges to come in, and I also drummed up the money to put my order in for my headers! :D

Josh, "No, it's a cardigan, but thanks for asking."

[stumbaugh]

What kind of headers r u going to run?

[Blackjack]

Fixing to call Brian at B&G.

[stumbaugh]

Man I would buy some cheap BBK headers and weld flanges on them.

[Blackjack]

I thought about that but I got a real good deal on them, plus they'll look really nice not some weld all over junk that I know I'd make. Lol!

[stumbaugh]

LOL. Well I guess that is one way of looking at it.

[Blackjack]

Well a little update from this weekend.

Got the oil pump and the main girdle installed.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Pumpandgridleinstalled.jpg

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/MainGirdle.jpg


And installed the head studs, I borrowed the camshaft I was going to use but sold to Kevin when I changed up the combo again, to check the piston to valve clearance one more time.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Headstudsinstalled.jpg

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Headstudsinstalled2.jpg


I also got both turbos almost disassembled to clean them up and reclock them. Thanks, to Kevin. One of the bolt basically decided to around itself. Took some heat to get it out.

[stumbaugh]

it's look good!

[Blackjack]

Thanks man, I got my lifters yesterday. I was going to work on it some through the week, but I'm staying in Memphis tonight with a buddy working on some stuff. Thursday Mick is trying to drag me out to the track, so he can beat up on the cobra! :twisted: So, it's looking like Friday before I get to work on it some more.

[mb2]

YOur doing the project right!! Gonna be a sweet street car

[1low03gt]

That is looking perrrrrty! 8-)

[Blackjack]

Yup, I started to check P to V last night, and puddy no where to be found. Lol! I was suppose to stay in Memphis lastnight, happens to be tonight. So, guess I'll be jumping back on it Friday.

[stumbaugh]

Pretty awsome.

[redsvt]

just as a suggestion, pour some oil in the lifter valley and let it set for a while. then wipe it out and make sure the paint sticks. dad done one like this and after a day of oil on it the paint started peeling off.

[Blackjack]

I might try that, hopefully it won't be a problem. I didn't paint it ;) . Steve Heath and Battery Parts Warehouse in Jonesboro did it. The only way to have it done, because when he painted it, it was fresh out of the hot tank. No oil or anything to keep the paint from sticking. He painted my brothers block and it still looks awesome.

[TROYBUILT87]

I don't no what oil pan you are going with but I used a oil pan from cfr performance. It looks alot like a canton. I got the 7qt deep sump and dipstick kit for 151.00 dollars shipped. It does not hang low and slipped in just fine. Cfrperformance.com or just look them up on ebay.

[Blackjack]

Thanks for the tip, I've got a D.S.S. style pan, but I haven't decided if I'm going to use it or not.

[Blackjack]

Well, I haven't done much to it lately. Because of the farm, and I'm haven't to spend some money tires for my truck. :(

However, I thought I'd post up something I received in the mail last week.

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Headers1.jpg

http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu138/90Blackjack/Header2.jpg

[Unclesams_SVO]

Very nice build , very nice indead.

[stumbaugh]

How's everything coming?

[Blackjack]

Super slow. Hahaha! Actually, I'm on a stopping point right now because Duck season is coming in. Also, I'm now kicking the idea of doing a single turbo now. I think sometimes I'm like a girl, because I can't make up my mind. Hahaha!

[stumbaugh]

Ya twins are pretty cool, but it's alot more expensive than a single set up. 2 blow off valves, 2 waste gates, 2 times as much piping, 2 oil lines ect ect ect. Just go one single 67mm or 70mm at the most. A freind of mine has a 93 true cobra with a stock short block with trickflow heads and a 62mm and at 10psi it made 437rwhp on pump gas and VERY safe tune. The tune was actually strickly for fuel mileage.

[Blackjack]

I've actually got a good bit of the parts to do the twin set up, but I also think it'd be alot less busy and compacted under the hood.

[Blackout_03]

Go with at least a 76mm anything less would be a joke and only leave you wishing for a bigger turbo.

[stumbaugh]

I don't see how it would be a joke to run a 67 or 70. Spool up more quickly, and will easily produce plenty of power to destroy that stock block. Black Jack, Get on www.theturboforums.com, and do some research on there. If you are building a turbo car u need to join the site.

[iluvmustangs]

Go with at least a 76mm anything less would be a joke and only leave you wishing for a bigger turbo.

hmmm... agreed.

[Blackjack]

Well, I'm probably going to get the hand down from my brother. Which his is a 67mm, which we'll be more then plenty. Remember, this will be on 18 inch street tires. Lol!

[stumbaugh]

Not only that, but if you will do the proper research, people are making over 600rwhp with a 62mm!!! And I know a guy that was making like 700rwhp. The number one problem when building turbo cars is getting to big of a turbo. You will love that 67mm

[Blackjack]

Yeah Jake, I'm a member of turbo mustangs too! Forgot to tell you that. It screams on my brothers car, plus if I use the for what I want (driving touring etc.) and keep my foot out of it, it should get pretty decent mileage.

[backfocus]

Blackjack, you are on the right track with the turbo, in my opinion. Not sure if you remember or not, but I am going turbo as well. The 67 will be a good combo for your motor, the cam will also be a key, I don't remember what you are using for that. I suggest a custom cam from FTI, or someone else with a good rep.

I am also a member of the turbo forums.

[hammerhead2]

The car is coming along nicely Sam. Can't wait to see it when its done.

[Blackjack]

Thanks Mick I just need some more money and time. Lol! Thanks for the advice Backfocus, as far as the camshaft I'm going to just put together what I want to build.

[stumbaugh]

How is the quaility of the baer brakes? I'm debating on getting the kit myself for my foxbody. If you don't mind me asking, how much was that complete kit?

[Blackjack]

Man the quality is top notch. Wouldn't go any other way. I had a cheap 4 lug disc conversion from SSBC before, and let me say I wasn't very impressed.

As far as price, it's kinda hard to say. I actually got lucky and found the front rotors on ebay! Lol! And if you don't know the front calipers are the two piston cobra style caliper, and the rear calipers are from an 93-97 LT1 F-body car.

I pretty much pieced my kit together over time, but if I had to guess I'd say between $1200 to $1500 is what I've got in it all together.

Hope that helps.

[QUARTER MILE MUSTANG]

Great build! Keep up the great work. 67mm turbos are ideal for street use in my opinion. I have a buddy in N.M. with a 67 on a 347 running consistent 9.98's. The potential is deffinantely there with that turbo to make 500+rwhp.

[superchargedfaith]

man that joker looks sweet just sitting on the trailer!!!